sure to say that it's not that day. look, yes, there will be a debate. i think what he was talking about, though, ali is we're not going to get to the brinksmanship and i think he hopes and all americans hope we don't get to the point where we were the last time we had the silly debate on the debt where our country was downgraded and we did look foolish in the eyes of the world. you know, the market was down and it just certainly was not good for our economy. and i think those are the points that the president was making. we don't need to get there. now, in terms of having a debate on the broader issues, for example, if they start now the way that he has asked in terms of having a discussion about reform, about tax reform, about spending cuts and doing it in a responsible way that doesn't hurt our growth and doesn't hurt our economy or job creation, then he is absolutely willing and democrats are and clearly republicans want this, too, to have that kind of conversation.